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The Alt-Right and the Homosexual Question — Part 1

“Men of our race naturally view with contempt the creatures who, though anatomically male, find a perverse and incomprehensible satisfaction in sexual relations with one another.” — Revilo P. Oliver

Also read: Part 2; Part 3.

Introduction

The following essay is quite long — much longer than I initially intended. The reason for this is that I soon discovered that, like the Jewish Question, the Homosexual Question does not lend itself easily to soundbites, quips, rhetorical flourishes, or short blog posts. It is not intended to be comprehensive, nor is it meant to fully explain what homosexuality is, or how it originates. This essay is intended to advance the position that homosexuals should be regarded as anathema to the Alt-Right, and to the broader White Nationalist movement.

I once previously involved myself in the comments section of AltRight.com, arguing against homosexual apologetics. The response was overwhelmingly supportive, but one or two homosexual malcontents made the following accusations: first, that I was involving myself in a dispute between the editors of AltRight.com and Counter-Currents publishing; second, that I was evidently a repressed homosexual; and third, that this was somehow an attempt to boost my personal status. On the first point, I am not invested personally in the debate between AltRight.com and Counter-Currents publishing, but almost two years ago (long before the dispute) I was writing against homosexual apologetics and offered counter-arguments to at least one Counter Currents author. I deal with the bankrupt rationale behind the second accusation in the course of the essay. On the third point, my aspiration to personal status is necessarily limited by my anonymity. I aspire neither to ‘status’ nor to leadership. I am aware of the limitations of my position, and only wish to advance an argument. That such an argument might damage the credibility of others may be considered the primary reason behind accusations against me personally in this regard. Tackling this issue is likely to be largely thankless, and certainly controversial. My status may well have been better served by “sticking to the Jews,’ but as stated, status is not my objective.

This essay will not be “the last word” on the subject, but it is likely to be my last word on it.

Silencing Tactics

Within the Alt-Right, the subject of homosexuality, and more specifically homosexuals within our movement receives surprisingly little serious commentary. There are a number of professed and implied reasons for this discursive lacuna, some of which may be more complicated than first appear on the surface. At the outset it seems scarcely worth repeating that homosexuality is not a pleasant topic to discuss or explore, and nor is it in any sense straightforward, concerning as it does a variety of complexities of morality, Nature, science, politics, and ideological worldview. One of our late great thinkers, Professor Revilo P. Oliver, expressed this combination of the repellant and the complex quite clearly when he wrote in 1966: “Homosexuality is a disgusting and, in some of its aspects, recondite subject, and even the most concise summary of what is known about it would reach the dimensions of a treatise and require the use of languages other than English.” Oliver, if he were alive today, may well agree with me that this is a subject which brings little reward for the attention that might be devoted to it. However, I believe that Oliver, who lived during a time when the tide of deviant behavior had not risen as high as it is today, would also agree with me this is a subject that should be addressed occasionally, as a matter of necessity, for reasons of ideological clarity and the maintenance of morale.

The reasons most often given for avoiding the subject of homosexuality should be familiar to all readers, though this very familiarity hides a rhetorical usefulness and a lack of deeper socio-historical awareness that has permitted the entry and tolerance of a small but noisy number of homosexuals in corners of the Far Right, not just in the United States, but elsewhere. First, there is the honest but ill-considered refrain that we “don’t care what people do in their bedrooms,” which reduces to narrow absurdity a question of ethnic health, demographics, and culture. Then there are nervous and cowardly assertions from some that the issue isn’t an “obsession” for them, and therefore isn’t one that they waste their time on. Those that do, of course, are simply “protesting too much,” and there must be something suspect about them. According to this line of thinking, men ‘secure in their sexuality’ simply wouldn’t address the topic.

As someone who has devoted many years of study to the Jewish Question, this latter excuse interests me. From a movement ostensibly well-versed in the methods of psychoanalysis and the Frankfurt School, one would perhaps expect a total rejection of quack psychology and its barely-concealed uses for the advancement of interests antithetical to White advancement. The pathologizing of one’s ethnic and/or ideological opponents is presumably so well-attested that no self-respecting member of the Alt-Right or affiliated circles could entertain such mind games. In the Culture of Critique, Kevin MacDonald writes:

One way in which psychoanalysis has served specific Jewish interests is the development of theories of anti-Semitism that bear the mantle of science by deemphasizing the importance of conflicts of interest between Jews and gentiles. Although these theories vary greatly in detail — and, as typical of psychoanalytic theories generally, there is no way to empirically decide among them — within this body of theory anti-Semitism is viewed as a form of gentile psychopathology resulting from projections, repressions, and reaction formations stemming ultimately from a pathology-inducing society.

A key argument of psychoanalytic theories of anti-Semitism is that those who engage in the critique of Jews do so out of repressed jealousies that amount to a desire on the part of the anti-Semite to be Jewish. In this understanding, the anti-Semite so strongly desires to be a Jew that he secretly and subconsciously becomes an inward Jew. The fierce repression of this internal development is so strong that it further evolves into an outward, and irrational, hatred of the Jewish people. An example of this thinking can be found in Theodore Isaac Rubin’s Anti-Semitism: A Disease of the Mind (2009), in which Rubin writes:

The anti-Semite’s most buried and unconscious secret — from himself and others — is the desire to be a Jew. He wants to be free of conscience and inner coercions, and he believes that Jews are free. He too wants to be what he views as the exotic and privileged outsider. He wants to be the total and forever expatriate even as he raves about his own patriotism and nationalistic feelings and influences (91).

The Jewish interest in disseminating such an understanding of anti-Semitism among non-Jews should be patently obvious. What better way to deal with someone hostile to Jews than to convince him that his own hostility is evidence of becoming what he detests? The power of his Jewish-provoked wrath is thus turned upon himself, neutralizing him as an opponent of Jewish interests. Since the beginnings of psychoanalysis, Jewish intellectuals have focused on applying its tactically useful ‘findings’ to myriad historical contexts as part of their growing and unrelenting critique of the West. In the field of academic history, Jewish historians versed in psychoanalysis have written entire tomes in which the central argument is that Europeans persecuted ‘innocent’ Jews for centuries simply because they envied the role of Jews as God’s Chosen People, and had deep-seated desires to be Jews themselves. The late Robert Wistrich, and his Antisemitism: The Longest Hatred (1991) is a classic in this regard, though it also featured in the works of self-hating, incentivized, crypto-Marxist Whites like the late Gavin Langmuir and his History, Religion, and Antisemitism (1990).

To those with a strong enough mental constitution, this tangle of manifestly unprovable theories is little more than ridiculous — a rhetorically impressive folly, but a folly nonetheless. And, at this point, it is worth highlighting the similarities in explanations of “homophobia,” a term coined by George Weinberg but first ‘explained’ as a putative phenomenon by Sigmund Freud. Freud scholar Christine Downing explains that (just as Jewish intellectuals argue that all Europeans wanted to be Jews):

For Freud, we are all in some sense homosexuals… Freud is also persuaded that the fear of one’s denied sexual longings constitutes one of the most powerful elements in resistance to analysis…Homophobia too is seen as an expression of repressed homosexuality. Freud regards it as the individual’s attempt to reject admission of his own unconscious homosexual desires with vigorous counter-attitudes.

Perhaps even more influential than Freud in the modern era, in terms of pathologizing aversion to homosexuality, was Albert Ellis (1913–2007), the Jewish, Pittsburgh-born psychologist who argued in The American Sexual Tragedy (1954) that all men who are not homosexuals are “fetishistic” and suffer from the “delusion” that women are more fun — and hence must be treated as “victims of psychiatric illness.” The striking parallels between these Jewish explanations for hostility towards Jews and homosexuals should be obvious, along with the transparent ambition of promoting a generalized notion of ‘tolerance’ as virtuous and a sign of good mental health. However, whereas stronger mental constitutions appear to have resisted the advance of the former attempt at pathologizing opposition, I am often struck by the apparent readiness, even within our circles, of men eager to reach for Jewish explanations for why they refuse to tackle an issue of some social significance. Moreover, I find it cowardly and weak: “I can’t take a principled position on this issue because if I do then I will appear homosexual in the schema of Jewish psychological contrivance.” Perhaps it’s because I’m a married father of three, that I’m confrontational by nature, or that I find accusations of repression and secret homosexuality to be humorous as much as irritating, but such a contrivance has never worked on me, and never shall. Behind every Jewish claim that the anti-Semite ‘doth protest too much,’ lies the implication that he should stop protesting. And behind the same giggling refrain from the effeminate lies the same implication. And, in the main, the latter works, shielding the degenerate from critique from all but the most fanatical, which in turns lends perverse credence to his claim that only an ‘obsessive’ would critique his ‘way of life’ or draw attention to what he does ‘behind closed doors.’

Reasoned discussion is necessary to break this Jewish-contrived, artificial taboo, and to draw attention to some manifest realities compelling the exclusion of homosexuals from our struggling but sacred movement, and a broader reckoning with the social implications of homosexuality on a national or ethnic level. The willingness of an individual or a movement to take a stand on an issue depends on a strength of worldview. The individual who argues that we should “deal with” this or that subject first (and solely) while leaving other matters to a putative future, does not possess a worldview but a hierarchy of opponents. A worldview entails a complete vision of the world in which we now exist, and a complete vision of the world we hope to shape. Our movement, consisting as it does of often bickering circles, should at the very least be made to conform in some fashion to the world that we are striving for. A situation in which known movement homosexuals and their circles can posture as spokesmen for National Socialism or White Nationalism would be laughable were it not for the fact that it was tolerated with such lethargy by the ideologically lazy and those intimidated into silence by Jewish psychological parlor tricks. Worldview is the foundation of ideology. Ideology is the foundation of activism and morale. Clarity of worldview, and its practical expression in whatever achievable form, is non-negotiable. Just as there is no room in this movement for Jews or Africans or Pakistanis, the over-arching rationale for an exclusion of homosexuals is the fundamental incompatibility of their inclusion under our worldview.

The various reasons underlying this incompatibility may be regarded broadly under two categories: the biological implications of homosexuality (issues of disease and demographics), and the behavioral traits and personality of the homosexual (issues of personality characteristics and socio-cultural impact). It is to these categories that we now turn our attention.

Next: Part 2

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Andrew Joyce holds a Ph.D. in History and Literature. He is the Editor of Washington Summit Publishers and a frequent contributor to The Occidental Observer among other publications. He is a father of three.

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Goolag Sucks

EXCELLANT article. I usually do not spend much time on the HQ, but they absolutely should not be allowed in our movement.

1. Levels of disease and degeneracy
2. Cannot reproduce
3. Nearly all support leftist causes
4. “Reproduce” through molestation of children.
5. Another strain of cultural marxism
6. Acceptance of their degeneracy devolves into things like “Trans-Rights”
7. Their lifestyle is an abomination and no sane person should have to accept it

Halford Mackinder
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Halford Mackinder

There’s a question about this? Homosexuality belongs in one of two places. In the closet, or in a hole in the ground. If you can’t keep it in one place, society should make sure to put it in the other.

Nick Brown
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Nick Brown

Those that defend this degeneracy I ask one thing. Are having openly homosexual males a net positive or negative to the movement? There is only one answer when looked at from just a practical standpoint. We stand for tradition and traditional family structures. Homosexuality is destructive to those ends. Period.

StraitlacedMissouri
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StraitlacedMissouri

Thank you… WTH are they going to do aside from try to lead other young men and women that we have raised off into some sick lifestyle that will dead end our lines?!!

JohnEngelman
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JohnEngelman

Homosexuals are nor responsible for the fact that a growing percentage of heterosexuals do not get married or stay married to the co-parents of their children. Children who are not raised by their biological parents living together in matrimony tend to have many more problems in life.

The only strong opinion I have about homosexuality is that I am glad I am not that way.

Joseph Curwen
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Joseph Curwen

This is one of the lines that White Nationalists should write on stone: NO FAGS ALLOWED. Period. End of story. Male/female homosexuality is both a mental problem and a perversion and thus should not be promoted nor tolerated. A fag/dyke (does matter if he/she ‘sympathize’ with White Nationalism) will always be a fag/dyke first, siding with the enemy and against their racial brothers and sisters when they have to choose between his race and his perversion. Just look at the uebermanly (LOL) faggot Donovan who after years promoting himself and his stupid and homoerotic ideas (and selling his books to… Read more »

Andrew Miller
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Andrew Miller

When so many WNs engage in this hateful, unnuanced rhetoric towards homosexuals, it’s no surprise that many homosexuals choose self-preservation. A mature understanding of homosexuality requires some degree of reciprocity. Homosexuals should be willing to “keep it on the low,” as the negros say. They must be discreet and understand that they will never be leaders in the movement. Heterosexuals, in turn, must offer basic respect for the dignity of homosexuals: a respect that is sorely lacking in your comment. If your main goal is to solipsistically indulge your sadistic hatred towards homosexuals, then you’re doing well. But if your… Read more »

WHAT
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WHAT

Homo`s ultimate allegiance is to the homos.

Vincent Law
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Vincent Law

Homo Internet Defense Force out in full force today.

Brutus of troy
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Gay Mafia! I’ll say something else… when my channel got shut down I complained to Millennial woes about it and he laughed at me and said there is no gay mafia… then… when he was asking who wanted to be interviewed for millenial yule he told me he cant interview me because i made fun of his faggot friend Greg. That’s how this group dynamic works…. If you have a protected minority they will be at the top of the hierarchy and they will push those who oppose them to the side…. its amazing this has to be pointed out… Read more »

Vincent Law
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Vincent Law

gays trade sexual favors for advancement at the expense of heteros who are left out. hence the gay mafia, yes.

Joseph Curwen
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Joseph Curwen

First, you are taking for granted the basic premise of the enemy’s Gender Theory, that is that homosexuality is just a matter of choice, as normal as choosing vanilla icecream over chocolate icecream. However, it is not, homosexuality (both male and female) is both a mental problem and a perversion. Second, you are taking for granted that somehow without homosexuals the ‘movement’ couldn’t progress and make achievements. Since when we need homosexuals to secure the existence of our people and a future for white children? how many homos are fighting for the movement? how many homos have fight for the… Read more »

Andrew Miller
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Andrew Miller

Who hurt you?

Tragic Comedy
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Tragic Comedy

Who molested you?

Andrew Miller
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Andrew Miller

No one, which is why, unlike many of you, I am able to discuss this topic without frothing at the mouth.

Ghetto Tarzan
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Ghetto Tarzan

This is a very Jewish response.

Johnny Fascismo
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Johnny Fascismo

“it’s no surprise that many homosexuals choose self-preservation.”

And thats the crux of the issue. They put their degenerate sexual vices at the centrepoint of their personal identity. Their always faggots first. Their a subversive element in our society who undermine the traditional family unit and make a mockery of our religious beliefs. If anything the Alt-Right is too lenient on the homo question.

John Cross
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John Cross

And why do you think that is? Because we reject them, regardless of them being decent people who could contribute or not. So they become nihilistic, hate themselves, and then become more degenerate. If they are pro-traditionalism, then they are more likely to not engage in degeneracy and promiscuity. You can’t claim that you love your group imo, and then reject some of them for having a defect that they can’t help. I don’t think homosexuality should be celebrated in the movement, and definitely not promoted in any way, but I don’t think someone’s sexuality should be something we focus… Read more »

Johnny Fascismo
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Johnny Fascismo

“You can’t claim that you love your group imo, and then reject some of them for having a defect that they can’t help.”

Nonsense. You might love your garden, but you still pull out the weeds and other undesirable eyesores.

John Cross
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John Cross

I’m talking about something they can’t help, I’m all for rejecting people for things they can help, but do anyway. I’m a bit split on this issue though anyway, I think we need to have a measured view and approach to it though. There’s no way to cure homosexuality as of yet, and condemning people harshly for something that they were born with, that doesn’t directly harm others doesn’t sit too well with me.

Johnny Fascismo
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Johnny Fascismo

It’s a negative element in the culture and drags the rest of the group through the mud when it is permitted and even celebrated. They should keep it in the closet or they don’t get a job and become social pariahs. I’m not saying we have blackshirts kicking in the doors of suspected homos and putting them to the the firing squad, but gay pride parades shouldn’t be a thing that happens in any healthy society. Public acts of indecency should be punished. This is how homo’s were handeled for centuries and it worked. The whole “they can’t help it”… Read more »

BWV
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BWV

Yeah, they can “help it.”

It is a choice they make, usually based on faulty upbringing. Even if they cannot find their way back to being normal – they can recognize the destructive nature of homosexuality and choose celibacy.

Tragic Comedy
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Tragic Comedy

Holy shit you really are just ‘OY VEY! MUH FAGS!’ing it up. Hilarious.

(((Shill)))
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(((Shill)))

“Sadistic hatred towards homosexuals” That’s a bold statement. People here are disgusted by the extreme degeneracy openly conducted by gays in our current society. We see the effect they have. Yeah I’m sure there are exceptions to the rule, but we don’t see any real benefit to having them in society. They’re very manipulative and are just as destructive as some (((other people))) we know. Some here hate gays, sure, but many are simply wary of the effect they have when given power. People don’t hate someone for no reason. Hatred is bred through experiences.

Sam Cru
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Sam Cru

If I find out that you’re a homo then you aren’t “keeping it on the low”. You want flamboyancy just like every other flaming homo out there.

“…many of whom would be more than willing to use their surplus time and money to put their race ahead of their desires…” If you put your race ahead of your desires then you wouldn’t be a homo. Homos don’t have babies.

Veruschka
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Veruschka

I agree. There have always been, and always will be, men and women who are homosexually inclined. Some have even made invaluable contributions to Western civilisation. I also agree with the leadership/spokesman/movement representative exclusion. To actively bar this small fraction of the population in the AR or even a future ethnostate requires a delusional understanding of human nature. A “down-low” policy and an universal understanding that they do fall short of the ideal so keep yourself to yourself in this regard, would ensure they behave discreetly and with outward dignity, and without expressed “pride” in their defect because, hey, shit… Read more »

Paul Rain
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Paul Rain

Female homosexuality is irrelevant, like all professed female sexuality. Corrective rape is the only African technology that works.

Vincent Law
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Vincent Law

this is the lulziest thing I’ve read all day, well done.

Alan McHone
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Alan McHone

One can only hope you have a daughter who is gay!! Would you setup her “corrective rape”? You’re a sick person, almost like a pedophile!!

Tom Rogers
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Tom Rogers

On this point, I would concur. Homosexuals, like women, cannot be considered politically reliable. This can and will result in dilemmas for us: some individual homosexuals, like some individual women, have exceptional abilities and can be an asset, but in my view, they should all be regarded with caution and the exceptions – if any – should be few and far between. What’s really happening here is that we are going through that inevitable and very painful process of re-learning the old wisdom that our boomer parents rejected and abandoned and, as youths under their influence, that we dismissed as… Read more »

JohnEngelman
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JohnEngelman

Homosexuality is a congenital inclination rather than a behavior set. Some homosexuals are faithful to their (female) wives. Some remain virgins.

The sexual problem facing Western civilization is that a growing percentage of people do not get married and stay married to the co-parents of their biological children.

Children raised to adulthood by their biological parents living together in matrimony tend to have fewer problems in life than other children.

Cartier McCloud
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In looking over all these (some self-serving) comments, the fact is that White Genocide covers all that contributes to it. The jew agenda of “normalizing,” promoting, legalizing and criminalizing opposition to such perverted sexual behavior belies the obvious: faggots cannot reproduce. As such, the more faggots are praised, protected and promoted insures that less White children will be born. Many SJW refuse to marry or have children until faggots are totally accepted as part of “normal” society. The fact that they can already marry & adopt children, only insures these children will swing their way. Anyone who wants to see… Read more »

James OMeara
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James OMeara

We must purge out movement of these high-IQ, high-disposable income degenerates. Our movement will triumph with its army of alcohol/opiod addicted rednecks. Thanks for the hint, Jews!

Jaded Diaspora
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Jaded Diaspora

James, you (and a handful of others) typify precisely the kind of bitchy back-biting that make homos unfit for the movement. Even your snarky response here drips with elitist condescension: “army of alcohol/opiod addicted rednecks”. You don’t love our people you love you own ego, and your own empty hedonism.

Identitarian_Ethic
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Identitarian_Ethic

James OMeara
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James OMeara

I love White, Western, Aryan culture, so yeah, I guess that makes me an “elitist.” That’s the kind of Archie Bunkerism that lets the Jew walk all over you. After all, who needs culture, as long as you obey the commands of Jew Book.

Jaded Diaspora
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Jaded Diaspora

You are making my point for me. I say that you do not truly love our people, you respond: “I love our culture!” You’ve attempted to claim the mantle of intellectual aristocracy, yet you feel nothing of noblesse oblige: “Archie Bunkerism” “Jew Book” You love the trappings of the our high culture, but you cannot scoff at the plight of our opioid addicted brothers — call my defense of them “Archie Bunkerism” — and claim to love our people. And if you do not love our people “from the richest old Thane in the county to the poorest chained serf… Read more »

Azzmador
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You just want to fuck white boys and you fear that muslims will stop you

craicher
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craicher

And why do so many homos have high incomes? Because they band together like a pack of bloody vampires. You homos don’t give a toss about anything but your own vanity. And on drugs, where ever there are homos there are drugs and I mean heavy drugs. You are sick people, end of story.

iggyauggie
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iggyauggie

Well you fags sure as shit wont help in 50 years when you die off

Azzmador
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Die of GRIDs, faggot.

TK
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TK

Yeah, a “movement” of two aged queens who are terrified of even showing their faces is going to go places, lemme tell ya!

Peter
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Peter

Who here believes that gays “choose” to be homo rather than just being it? You could beat me to death and I wouldn´t choose it and neither does any other hetero man. So it´s innate, so what´s the point of making a big fuss about it, like, they decided to be homo?? Like, they are homo to make some point, or so….. W T F ??

JohnEngelman
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JohnEngelman

Since at least the first grade I have been aware of romantic feelings toward girls. These eventually segued to romantic feelings about women. I have never felt that way about boys and men.

Travis LeBlanc
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Travis LeBlanc

Is there any evidence that anyone’s homosexuality has ever adversely affected the movement? What episodes can you point to where someone being gay has caused problems for the movement? If you can not point to any specific episodes, then yes, people are entirely within their rights to question your motives up to and including you being a closet fag. Why worry about theoretical problems that may or may not arise in the future when we have real problems requiring immediate attention? Assuming that you are not a huge closet fag, that is? Why DOES that subject cross your mind if… Read more »

Paul Rain
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Paul Rain

How many individual episodes of Greg Johnson being a catty bitch do you want us to cite? Jesus.

Peter
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Peter

omg yes Greg Johnson is the worst ! He does so much more harm than good. Oh yes ! Aren´t we lucky to know that so we can avoid him and purge him. Then our situation will be better.

Paul Rain
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Paul Rain

thats faggot shit

Identitarian_Ethic
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Identitarian_Ethic

Greg Johnson does seem to be quite problematic, but blaming his issues on his alleged sexuality isn’t a good excuse. What about all of the people with similar problems that are heterosexual? What’s their excuse? There are plenty of toxic people in our movement and almost zero homosexuals.

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The reason a line must be drawn is that homosexuality (etc) is epidemic today due to Jewish social engineering. If this was an age in which homosexuality, as both a practice and a lifestyle, was hardly known to normal people, a couple of fags here or there would hardly be worth mentioning. The danger is that the alt-right, just by virtue of being a fledgling movement needing to fill ranks, will become a hangout for all the tortured deviants created by modern Weimar culture.

Lothar von Trotha
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Lothar von Trotha

I think this is the bulk of the issue right now. Even before the civil rights movement, blacks were a problem, but they were incited and weaponized and have been a much bigger problem ever since. Homosexuality has certain problems for society by its very essence, but most of the damage it’s currently doing is because of the politicization and weaponization of it as yet another “oppressed group” being used to undermine traditional pillars of society. Gays had a subversive character before the “sexologists” and sexual revolutions came, but that character has intensified and become explicitly hostile to “heteronormativity,” as… Read more »

Tragic Comedy
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Tragic Comedy

Hahahahahahahhahahahahhahaha, aaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahah, oh god damn this shit is just silly.

Joseph Curwen
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Joseph Curwen

Frank Collin: fag, jew and a pederast.

Eustace Mullins: fag and pederast.

Matt Koehl: fag and pederast.

Ben Klassen: fag, possibly jewish and a pederast.

Do you want more examples? I have a lot more.

By the way, your raimbow is showing, I suggest sites Huffington Post and Cosmo for your next comments.

Identitarian_Ethic
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Identitarian_Ethic

None of those people were ever part of our movement, and I can’t believe you even tried to include Frank Collin. Over half are now dead and gone.

We are an entirely new movement than whatever that “movement” of the old days was. This movement is real.

Peter
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Peter

Deeply restorative to read a quality comment on Altright… not the frequent IQ 80 crap.

Tom Rogers
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Tom Rogers

Turing’s contribution has been exaggerated for propaganda purposes (much like now we see the historic contribution of obscure women in various fields exaggerated for ‘equality’).

Le Fox
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Le Fox

Pt. 2 — Robert Wistrich also wrote ‘Revolutionary Jews from Marx to Trotsky’. I’m surprised this book wasn’t mentioned in the essay, although Joyce seems to have read his other works. Freud, as stated before, did discuss homosexuality and the other psychoanalysts believed it was something that could be fixed or changed over time. They did not believe it was inherited, and one of the psychoanalysts even did a talk with a Danish count, who was gay, and others who admitted they did not like being gay. Freud wasn’t entire useless in this regard, and he was right in many… Read more »

Le Fox
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Le Fox

TL;DR I was directed to this series of articles from Common Filth, and felt obliged to comment. Given the recent ‘Christianity is for Cucks’ article, and the abundant ignorance of Greg Johnson’s actions, I say it is too little, too late for you to redeem yourselves. Even here, in the introduction, we see less of the homosexual problem, but more of the Jewish Question. Let’s discuss some of the finer points. “A key argument of psychoanalytic theories of anti-Semitism is that those who engage in the critique of Jews do so out of repressed jealousies that amount to a desire… Read more »

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BWV
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BWV

My usual retort to charges of “homophobia” is to laugh and point out that nobody is actually afraid of homosexuals; we’re only disgusted by them. As for homosexual Nationalists it seems unlikely you’ll ever find someone who is genuinely both. Homosexuals, now that they no longer have to hide their disgusting lifestyle choice, are eager – even desperate – to be noticed as homosexuals. One usually need look no deeper than their social media profile – often no deeper than their screen name itself – to discover they are homosexual. I usually explain to that group that “If the very… Read more »

Saint DyRo
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Saint DyRo

The Resistance Movement can have absolutely ZERO: JEWS, FAGGOTS, TRANSSEXUALS, PEDOPHILES OR PEDERASTS.

FURTHERMORE WE SHOULD STRIVE TO ELIMINATE ALL DEGENERACY FROM OUR PERSONAL LIVES. NO PORNOGRAPHY. NO DRUGS. NO PROMISCUITY. NO JEWISH GUITAR MUSIC. NO ORK HIPHOP. NO VULGAR DEFORMED ART. NO OBESITY, NO LAZINESS, NO VIDEO GAMES.

We need a constant and eternal vigilance to root out all degeneracy from our movement.

IF WHITES REMAIN DEGENERATE WE ARE NOT WORTH SAVING. WE MUST BE A NOBLE AND RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE.

WE HAVE WORK TO DO.

Azzmador
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Here is good info on the nature of faggots.

https://pew.tube/user/lincolnsrock/CcKEEKv

Azzmador
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you faggot

RJ
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RJ

Stick to comedy Azz. You’re a funny old man but that scary face is the last thing we need. Every time we get a good thing going, some weirdo like you ruins it. Follow your advice & this whole thing is coming down. Go get DS back.

Azzmador
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Look people, it’s very simple.

Faggots are gay.

Gays are faggots.

They are to be thrown off tall buildings, not accepted in right wing movements.

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[…] homosexual question” in white nationalism. It’s a long essay divided in three parts: here, here and […]

Clastaschio
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Clastaschio

From the above essay: “The individual who argues that we should “deal with” this or that subject first (and solely) while leaving other matters to a putative future, does not possess a worldview but a hierarchy of opponents. A worldview entails a complete vision of the world in which we now exist, and a complete vision of the world we hope to shape. Our movement, consisting as it does of often bickering circles, should at the very least be made to conform in some fashion to the world that we are striving for. A situation in which known movement homosexuals… Read more »

RJ
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RJ

Honestly? I thought the idea that ‘Romans weren’t REALLY gay’ was laughable.

But yea… Picking & choosing battles doesn’t seem unreasonable to me.

Lyon
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Lyon

Andrew Joyce is to be commended for even tackling this issue! And mercifully, this was an intelligent and well written opening salvo on a central question for society going forward. While the cowardly will avoid this topic like the plague, I look forward to parts 2. and 3. And I am open to adjusting my thoughts on the issue as well. And expressing them here to, ideally, moving the dialogue forward. So please respond to my post if you have anything to add, intelligent or otherwise. Also, while I only read a handful of comments below, I decided to not… Read more »

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[…] read: Part 1; Part […]

Brutus of troy
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I made a video talking about Greg Johnson and the gay question in my previous incarnation as the devonshire fascist and I was promptly removed from youtube.
the point is this…
the vast majority of white nationalists don’t like them so why protect them? And if you do protect them you are in fact creating a protected minority because if nature was allowed to follow it’s course they would all be kicked out.

Pepito Passado
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Pepito Passado

Are you the guy that wants the big house after everything is finished???

Brutus of troy
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lol, yeah, im getting my house, Jez Turner promised me, all that jewish property in london.. im getting a slice of that, then im going to live off a rental income and go skiing in the alps with my hot young trad wife

Pepito Passado
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Pepito Passado

where is your new channel brother?

Pepito Passado
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Pepito Passado

I found the link to your blog and youtube by clicking on your name there, good to have you back

Brutus of troy
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im doing a podcast now, it’s called brutus of troy, its on jewtube

Pepito Passado
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Pepito Passado

I just listened to episodes 3 and 4

Brutus of troy
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thanks bro

Sam Cru
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Sam Cru

Fags are gross.

altright_sobriquet
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altright_sobriquet

There are many very talented homosexuals (Turing, maybe Newton, Wilde, etc.). However a disproportionately, very high number of gays – especially men – are completely degenerate.

The Alt-right needs all of the allies it can get. Those gays who are willing to rigorously conform to the traditional ideals of the West and keep their sexual proclivities strictly private should be tolerated if not welcome. It is up to the rest of us to vigilantly enforce social norms – something which several generations of the West have failed to do.

iggyauggie
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iggyauggie

We can use fagotry to divide the brown people from their masters. Everyone hates fags except white people. Im not saying there arent a ton of brown perverts but they stone fags to death in brown countries. I dont care what fags do but fagotry should never be promoted

Azzmador
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You should care what fags do, since their primary means of recruiting new faggots is molesting boys.

iggyauggie
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iggyauggie

I agree 100% with turning the Democrats into the new catholic priests in terms of untrustworthyness of being around children. Faggotry will be exposed.

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[…] Also read: Part 1 […]

xyz234
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xyz234

Perhaps the cause of the increase in homosexuality lately has something to do with the use of hormonal contraceptives. From this article published in American Thinker: …”It seems that while doing his graduate work in the early 1960s, he had to do research on lab rats, which were given the synthetic hormones used in the then new birth control pills. The results, he told me, showed that the grandchildren of these lab rats would have high rates of homosexual behaviors. From what he told me, the findings were suppressed. Apparently, the powers that be wanted “the pill” to pass muster.… Read more »

JosephtheGreat
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JosephtheGreat

There are different ways of viewing homosexuality. The ones with the strongest negative reactions to homosexuals view it as a crime or a sin. Something done intentionally and with malice to cause harm. To them homosexuals are similar to murderers or rapists, people who should either be jailed or killed. Then there are those who view homosexuality as a mental illness or a character flaw. To these people homosexuals are similar to drug addicts or alcoholics; people who need help to be cured,but not so much condemned Then there are those who view homosexuality as a lifestyle or culture. These… Read more »

James OMeara
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James OMeara
Identitarian_Ethic
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Identitarian_Ethic

The problem with this topic is that instead of encouraging rational discussion, it gives a free hand to dogmatic, anti-thinkers to organize a hateful bandwagon. As the discussion goes on, the comment section will slowly begin to resemble a chat room for ISIS. It seems counter productive to further divide our race into subgroups. It’s especially counter productive to further push some subgroups into the arms of the System. We want the various, traditionally pro-System groups to be at odds with each other, not united against us and with the System. If in our future ethnostate, our culture will provide… Read more »

Celestial Time
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Simple solution, really. Recognize real talent & the unrealized potential of individuals, and then give those people the tools they need to grow and realize their potential. The overwhelming majority of those who contribute to these types of discussions with nothing but vitriol and regurgitated talking points about the detrimental aspects of homosexuality are doing so because they have nothing of value to add to “the movement” other than a revolving door of vitriol and regurgitated talking points. Often times they are very insecure people who will just move all of their negativity to another target whenever the conversations changes.… Read more »

JohnEngelman
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JohnEngelman

The more issues a movement becomes involved with the less powerful it becomes.

Andrew Miller
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Andrew Miller

Well said. Vince Law’s behavior is disgraceful and he has delegitimized Spencer’s right to lead us, since it is Spencer who gave this hateful nutjob free rein of this important site.

James OMeara
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James OMeara
Mac Tírè
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Mac Tírè

Miles Mathis? You’re joking. To him everything is a conspiracy. Every celebrity death a fake: Kennedy, Monroe, Elvis, Lennon, Manson Family victims, etc. 2 of his favorite sources of info are the Jew owned companies Wikipedia and 23 andme. He used info from the latter to show that ALL the NS leadership were jews. The guy is either a disinformation agent or a nut.

James OMeara
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James OMeara

If you really want to help “the Movement,” why don’t you just fuck off and kill yourself? That way we won’t have to take care of you when the actual Revolution occurs.

Nova Morium
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Nova Morium

Hello, Antifa…….

Sorry, you’re not Granted Access to the White Brotherhood…….

NEXT…….

James OMeara
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James OMeara

Why, because I know how to use capital letters, brave Mr. Alias?

Azzmador
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No, because you are a homosexualist who thinks it’s okay to use your rectum as a playground for your perversions.

TK
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TK

Let me know when you and Grindr Greg choose to show your faces, Nancy.

ContraButtusThexus
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ContraButtusThexus

When your Nazi overlords are fags or tolerate fags. THEN Read this and ponder upon that your dear leaders (may) wear diapers. If not now, then soon. If you are a man and sodomize your wife, you are worthy of a thousand deaths. Spencer was lithping positively over Milo in late summer of 2016. The love of faggotry was already a source of hate for a few good white men. Effeminate men of course like to talk about getting all gussied up in period costumes like, oh, I don’t know… SS UNIFORMS and KLAN HOODS! By the grace of God,… Read more »

Nova Morium
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Nova Morium

Huh???

ContraButtusThexus
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ContraButtusThexus

Before your time.

Or you are another Nazi fag. Either way, that’s how the diaper crumbles.

Nova Morium
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Nova Morium

Huh????

What?????

Nova Morium
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Nova Morium

The Alt-Lite is going to save Western Civilization……

Ha!!!!!!!

Nova Morium
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Nova Morium

A Great Idea…….

For an Alt-Right Rally Event…….

Let’s buy a LOAD of cheap paperback Anti-White Jewish Pseudo-Intellectual Tomes……

And burn them in a Bonfire……

I’ll definitely donate to this……

FACT……

Nova Morium
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Nova Morium

There is a Stark Difference……

Between…….

Wanting to be a Part of a White Brotherhood……..

And wanting to Fornicate with another White Man………

To my White Brothers in the Alt-Right…….

Don’t let Anti-White Jewish Psychoanalysis……..

Deter us in ANY WAY…….

We should Love Each Other………

FACT……

Dillon Francis
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Dillon Francis

There are cocksuckers in the alt right? If one puts on his jew psychotherapist hat perhaps one can deduce that the fags who are attracted to the alt right are fetishizing the strong male figure. They all belong in a bog or an island of their own.

Clark Kent
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Clark Kent

So the thesis of this book is that homosexuals played a significant role in European high-culture and helped defend Western Civilization in the past? Milo-esque characters essentially. This is an interesting thesis, and there might be some truth to it. But these kinds of high-quality queer characters seem to be exceedingly rare. And with what good Milo brings, he is no beacon of traditionalism or true masculinity, which currently is sorely lacking. Statistics show that modern gays are more likely to have psychological problems, drug addictions, suicide, etc, than the general populations. So it’s not as if we can make… Read more »

Dillon Francis
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Dillon Francis

You probably meant to comment on the link I left to your comment. Regardless, I don’t endorse the thesis of the book. I find it funny at best. The truth is that societies and civilizations were not built by psycho-sexual deviants aka queers. The author of that book is a ‘right wing’ homo hence why he wrote the book.

Clark Kent
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Clark Kent

I read into your post and wrote you a book report.
Overall I’m wary of gays, and I’m glad that is the general consensus.

Nova Morium
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Nova Morium

If a Jew asks me why I might dislike his Tribe……

I’ll say…..

“Because, you’re always in my F**king Space and Face and you won’t leave me the F**k Alone”

Jewish Behavior is the Main Cause of Anti-Semitism…….

We in the Alt-Right are Normal and Logical White Men…….

We don’t want to be Ruled by a Non-White Ethnocentric and Tiny Tribal Minority……..

And if Jews can’t understand that…….

Then, they must have their own ‘Disease of the Mind’…….

Namely, they want to be Hated, Despised and Attacked……..

Because that Strengthens their Ethnocentric Identity and Tribal Insularity…….

Ed Edgerton
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Ed Edgerton

One does not necessarily avoid the HQ merely to avoid the accusation of latent homosexuality. There is also the issue of choosing our battles wisely. When ideological differences can divide people who would be allies on other more important issues, the path of quiet distancing is usually preferable to open confrontation. I agree about the constant use of inversion in our culture. It has been going on for as long as I can remember. The argument is usually along the lines of “You are only objecting because you are insecure.” What this boils down to is “weakness is strength, strength… Read more »

Rob O'Brien
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Rob O'Brien

A core issue with gays and other disfunctionals, is that disfunctional people almost always resist and agitate against normality, even if only unconsciously. A quick look through the ranks of any lefty organisation or campaign group will reveal fags, disabled, ethnically mixed or foreign etc etc. This holds in any walk of life. The unconscious urge to attack what is normal and therefore better makes them corrosive and swells the ranks of the enemy. It also precludes them from any place in a movement that is seeking to reset what is normal to wholesome, decent and functional norms. We can’t… Read more »

Peter
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Peter

If they automatically do everything wrong, how then are they pro-White?

Rob O'Brien
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Rob O'Brien

Simply being nationalist or pro-white isn’t enough. We aren’t any more use than the wogs or semites if we are morally corrupt and broken. If our habits and behaviours are no better than the filth then we may as well pack it in now. This movement is about reclaiming our position as the best and carrying on with that, we were only ever at our best when our morals and habits were correct. Traditionalist, disciplined, healthy in our bodies and minds and building a better world through the application of our superiority both culturally and physically. Nobodies perfect, but we… Read more »

Peter
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Peter

I regret, not my position. I want to be white and survive as such, all else is secondary if not irrelevant.

Rob O'Brien
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Rob O'Brien

Utterly without substance in that case. Simply being white but debasing ourselves is pointless and even counterproductive

kaarekazai
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kaarekazai

I agree 99% With you. But it is that 1% of autism and lack of realism/pragmatism that does nothing for the cause of white ethnic nationalism and does so much damage for the support of the wider movement. Yes. We can be pro normal hetro Family. Pro sound sexualmorality. Pro traditional gender roles. All of that is good. We can also be pushing back retarded pervers “fagotry” like pride Marches and promotion of genderbending and just all this metro-sexual degeneracy. BUT… Real gay persons are not gay because of culture. It is hormonal. We must not be so hung up… Read more »

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Yehudah Finkelstein

Homos belong in the closet.

Oscar Madison
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Oscar Madison

Once the (((revolutionaries))) had isef up their blacks as spear points at white norms the decided on fahgs for theor next wave of revolution as EMJ tells us fahgs are perfect Lil consumers, slaves to their passions and easily lead and manipulated. Dont need lots of money since they wont raise large families etc etc etc.

Fahgs are against reason and the order that is logos, im down with no “movement” that pretends there is a place for them other than the bog

kaarekazai
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kaarekazai

Listen the fuck up kids! Don’t you fucking understand that we are at the most a couple decades from all out RAHOWA or maybe even bloody white genocide waged against us. We can not dictate Peoples biology. Homosexuals are born that way. WE or nobody else can do anything about the sexual orientaion of these poeple. So quit being a fucking retard and grow up! I am older than most of you. I am straight as a ruler and I have 3 children. Exactly 3 more than most of you. And I am married and have ACTUAL SEX With a… Read more »

Peter
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Peter

Great, perfect rant… I subscribe 100% to it, sad that so few have it together like this.
Now I really just need 1 thing exlpained: how come that a guy like Andrew Joyce whom I estimate very highly for his work on unveiling jewish subversion, comes up with so strange a view on the gay question??

WHAT
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WHAT

>fucking fucking fucking
>look at me, me so awesome
>me stronk
>me has broad
>me has dem kidz
>stop noticing the joo mkay

kaarekazai
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kaarekazai

Mkay.. 😀 Work hard and grow a beard and you can be awesome to. 😀 But.. How often do you debate normies? How do you plan to redpill anyone on even the simple but essential demography issue and imigration? If you repuls people so fast that they never get to be redpilled on the white genocide they will never lift a finger to defend their race or even their nation. So you need to be a bit more smart. The anti jihadist is totally autistic about islam and can not lift their view abow the Islam Question. If the Alt-Right… Read more »

WHAT
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WHAT

>look ma I`m naxalting already

Lothar von Trotha
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Lothar von Trotha

The problem with avoiding the JQ is that you end up like Jared Taylor, making perfectly valid points about race, for decades, and falling on deaf ears. Perhaps it would be possible to alleviate our ills by simply dealing with media control, banks, neocons etc., i.e. ripping out the roots of Jewish power without mentioning Jews, but to simply ignore the problem of Jewish control altogether makes for a nigh-impossible struggle. Hence why things like Hart-Celler or media narratives continue to bamboozle the government and the people, because they don’t understand where their information is coming from, who it is… Read more »

Donaldberg Trumpstein
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Donaldberg Trumpstein

Oy Vey fellow civic nationalists!
Remember that there are patriotic LGBT community members like Blaire White and MILO! Notice I said LGBT only, not LGBTQIATYEVC+!
I’m so rebellious I don’t even use a 20 character acronym!
Conservatism is the new counter culture!

(((Shill)))
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(((Shill)))

Yep. Steven Crowder, a “true conservative,” sure does enjoy inviting Blaire, a tranny, onto his show. You know, it’s funny. He claims to be one of those people who loves to bring in and do shows with people of all sides of the political spectrum, but he has yet to do any form of communication with someone who is altright. Really makes ya think.

Donaldberg Trumpstein
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Donaldberg Trumpstein

Bad Goyim!
Go back to worshipping me and regurgitating D’Souza talking points!

(((Shill)))
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(((Shill)))

The sad thing is: I used to listen to lowder with crowder a lot.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Yehudah Finkelstein

Liberals я the яeal Nazis!

Jamal Schwartz
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Jamal Schwartz

We probably all have a hierarchy of non whites whom we dislike the most. For me, living and working in London, it is a close call between blacks and muslims. However, even though I don’t want either of these groups near me, I don’t actually have any real hatred towards them as groups per se, just that they are detrimental to what my people can achieve if we banish them. Personally, the gays are probably the lowest down on the list. I think of them as like any who have a mental defect/deviation; it’s a pity that they are that… Read more »

nyúl béla
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nyúl béla

Homosexuality is a mental illness, they can be tolerated but should not be promoted.

GENX140
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GENX140

I’m 100% for white identity to succeed, however when I read comments like “fags to the ovens”, I feel like I’m surrounded by muzzies.
There is no way white identity will become mainstream with such policies.
If you find a way to “cure” homosexuality, go for it. Until then, learn to accept that its part of nature even if it turns you off.

Clark Kent
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Clark Kent

AIDS is a part of nature

GENX140
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GENX140

Some say AIDS was artificially designed. Either way, humanity is trying to cure it.

Jaded Diaspora
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Jaded Diaspora

If homosexuals are to be involved at all in the Alt-right at all, then they must:

I. be celibate (due to biological implications that I’m sure Joyce will discuss)
2. reject all trappings of “gay culture”
3. support the traditional family
3. forego internal politics (i.e. bitch-like behavior)
4. forego leadership positions

That is a tall order – one that very few homosexuals could comply with – but I think that this is necessary and the homosexual in our midst who repeatedly fails on one or more of these points should be declared anathema.

craicher
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craicher

If they did all of the above they would no longer be homosexuals but just men (or women) with perverted thoughts. Having a compulsive notion to fuck a goat would not make one a goat fucker. Like imagining or dreaming of murdering people does not make one a murderer. But yes, that is what we should demand of them and before too long something called a homosexual would be some strange alien notion that no one would know about. There would still be some sick people around but it would be so rare that near everyone would never know them… Read more »

JohnEngelman
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JohnEngelman

A movement becomes powerful when it restricts itself to one or two popular issues that can be propogated with fact based and logical arguments. The more issues a movement becomes involved with the weaker it becomes. Those who agree with some of the issues but not others leave the movement. The strongest issue for the alt right is immigration. Immigration depresses wages and depletes the environment. The immigration of inferior races raises the crime rate along with the cost of the criminal justice and welfare systems. These assertions can be demonstrated empirically without appealing to values and concerns many people… Read more »

Ethan Ancabourg
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I am GAY and proud! I’m just NOT a homosexual. It is high time we heterosexuals reclaim the term just like Arabs should assert themselves as Semites too. I’m NOT for the institution of Sharia solutions for “LGBTQ” persons or anyone. But there is no way around it being a homosexual or an unmarried childless heterosexual is inherently selfish. Which the Objectivist in me is okay with.Yet, short of cloning, the World needs happy, healthy, heterosexual couples to reproduce. Or “breeders” as militant homosexuals calls them. No new homosexuals can be minted without heterosexuals….

Peter
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Peter

omg omg omg… yes it´s true, the existence of homos equals our dieing out! It´s arithemtically obvious isn´t it… as practically everybody is a faggot rather than chasing pussies *role-eyes* (where do these commenters live…?? on what planet does this world of theirs exist…?? )

Tay
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Tay

Problem I have with the anti-gay stuff is that it usually comes down to two things: -Homosexuality goes against the Christian religion. -Moar Whyte babies! The problem I have with the first one is obvious: I am not Christian. I don’t expect Joyce to make the argument as a fellow non-Christian, but we already have Matt Parrott in these comments accusing gays of “anti-Christian propaganda.” If that’s an expellable offense, he might as well be consistent and kick atheists like me out of the movement. Joyce then mentions “biological” issues of “demographics,” which I believe will come down to “homosexuals… Read more »

Clark Kent
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Clark Kent

“But if they are a problem for that reasons, why then are single males like me not a problem?” MGTOWs often do get criticized for being self-absorbed layabouts, but not as much because in theory they can empathize at least to a degree with the biological interest of self-preservation and creating a future for offspring. Monks of the past were recognized favourably because they were a part of the known ascetic tradition, which often promoted values of piety, self-discipline, and education. Monks of the past could also have state-sponsored roles like transcribing documents or becoming members of the formal priestly… Read more »

Matt Parrott
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You can be non-Christian without being anti-Christian.

I’m not anti-folkish or anti-skeptic.

(((Shill)))
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(((Shill)))

Many of the athiests I’ve met physically and on the internet are more anti-christian than many of the gays out there. I’m sure we all remember the days when left-wing New Atheism held a monopoly on youtube and many other parts of the internet. I’m getting a sense of fedora neckbeardism with this one.

Peter
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Peter

How come that an on-the-fly comment from a random commenter is vastly more intelligent than a calmly composed article of a usually excellent man like Andrew Joyce?? Bizarro-world… I don´t get it…

JosephtheGreat
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JosephtheGreat

Single men are considered a problem. You probably haven’t notice this because you’re anonymous. But if you were to became any kind of leader or known person in the alt right and you are single male older than 30 with no wife or kids or even a girlfriend people will bring that up and it would become an issue for you.

Npen
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Npen

100% AGREE…well written and logical.