Perspective

The Metapolitics of America

The Fourth of July is the centerpiece of American nationalism and identity … even if few remember what exactly they are celebrating.

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But even in their comical ignorance, Americans seem sure that there’s an ultimate meaning to the Fourth: Freedom! … from … uhh … the South … er … the Nazis? … or whatever.

America, it is assumed, achieved independence from some sort of big, bad traditionalist oppressor.

Many nation-states celebrate “independence days,” which usually mark important or unlikely military victories over invaders or imperial powers. As memory gets mixed with myth, these events are imagined as popular liberations. Mexico’s “Cinco de Mayo,” which might soon displace the Fourth in prominence in the United States, is emblematic in this respect.

But the Fourth of July—as well as France’s Bastille Day of July 14—are holidays of an entirely different character (whatever surface similarities they might share with others).

America and France are the twin “proposition nations” of the Occident. (This sibling rivalry explains much about the popularity of France-bashing and l’antiamericanisme in opposing countries.) Their “national” days are unique in the world in that they celebrate historical events that were cast, at their very inceptions, as liberal advancements for all humankind.

Today, of course, every nation-state on earth—from Nigeria to North Korea—mouthes some sort of “human rights” mumbo-jumbo. But the U.S. and France are exceptional in that they emerged as direct ideological expressions of the Enlightenment, and occurred at a critical moment in its history. One hundred years after the death of Spinoza, the French and American Revolutions marked the point at which Enlightenment values left the realm of philosophy (and what could be called the 17th-century “radical fringe”) and entered the realm of state-making and geopolitics. Both Revolutions would, in turn, occur some 125 years before the Great War definitively ended the Old Order. Every state thereafter would be “American,” the vestiges of aristocracy and monarchy persisting only as tourist attractions.

“The Rights of Man” … “the pursuit of happiness” … “inalienable rights … endowed by our Creator” … The great slogans and myths of 1776 and 1789 have a quaint ring to them today. They hail from an older phase of the Left, and thus have become, as it were, “conservative.”

These platitudes function like dogma and form the unexamined basis of political action and speech. This is most obvious through a familiar political shorthand; in the words of Congressman Paul Ryan, America is “more than just a place … America is an idea.” (As geography is thrown out the window, so is race, people, culture, history, and more.) Ryan’s meme is reiterated across the spectrum—from a rock star’s urgings that Americans be “one” with the world, to the inaugural addresses of Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama. Much of political discourse in America involves politicians accusing rivals of not believing in the American dogma hard enough.

To be an American is to be committed to liberty, equality, and individual autonomy—perhaps even to have left one’s home and people in the name of such principles. America’s highest ideal is, in a way, an _anti-ideal_—that the state shall not express a people’s spirit and history, a source of wisdom or tradition, or a vision of something greater, more dominant and powerful than an individual. The character of America is imagined as an endless tabula rasa or Etch-a-Sketch; it gets written on, but always returns to zero.

The “Founding Fathers,” as they are known, are revered not so much as martial heroes but as the wise designers of the world’s greatest legal mechanism. There seems to be no parallel in other Occidental cultures to the reverence of the Supreme Court, as a set of nine Talmudic Judges who, depending on your persuasion, will either divine the Constitution’s One True Law or else view it as a living will.

Other countries might have negative national consciousnesses. Germans, for instance, have internalized de-Nazification. But Germans remain, despite it all, self-consciously German. Americans, on the contrary, are nothing … they’re always starting over … they like to tell themselves they have an unbounded future, but only at the cost of never having a past.

One can be an American and also be Roman Catholic … a Muslim … a Buddhist … or a trans-gendered performance artist. American society is, indeed, encouraged to fragment into as many pieces as possible. So long as no identity, ideal, or meaning predominates over others; so long as every identity ultimately wants the same.

Religion in America, particularly Protestant Christianity, has rarely opposed this anti-identity; at critical moments, it has reenforced it. There is a “storybook” history to the many fanatics, who, choosing to abandon their homes and cultures, sought to create a “new Israel” in the New World. What we call “tradition,” they called “corruption” and “poison.”

One could imagine an alternative reality in which American religious institutions had opposed the 1776 Revolution (or at least had been highly skeptical of it), urging loyalty to mother country and mother church. Instead, the 18th-century pulpit was a place of revolutionary fervor. Jefferson’s Independence Declaration had resonated with—and was, indeed, continuous with—a whole series of “compact” beginnings for Christian Americans, who in a spirit of Hebraic separatism, desired to break with Europe.

The Europeans had been Germans … Gauls … Russians … Lombards … Britons before they were Christians. In their national consciousnesses, they could remember conversion experiences. Americans, on the contrary, were Christians before they were Americans.

One could counter that the American dogma is all rhetorical—that the Founders, some of the wealthiest men on the continent at the time, sought to secure an aristocratic order, that American society has been informed by ethnic, political, and monetary agendas, etc.

But to understand America, one must understand its _outcome_—that there are certain impulses and implications that only become clear later on (ironically, when the entity has reached its end point). Today, the United States has achieved the most robust and most popular civic religion that explicitly denies its racial, historical, and civilizational identity. This spiritual negation is more devastating than the displacement of the founding stock through mass immigration.


Our perspective is of living in America, without being of it. As we escape America’s assumptions, we can look upon the entity objectively.

A century and a half ago, Alexander Stephens, Vice-President of the Confederate States of America, was faced with the prospect of the victory or annihilation of his nation and fledgling state in what is now referred to as the American Civil War.

In his greatest address, “The Cornerstone of the Confederacy,” he did not speak (mendaciously) about “states rights” or any kind of Constitutional legality. He instead cut to the heart of the social order he was opposing. He stressed that the Confederacy was based on the conclusion that Thomas Jefferson was wrong; the “cornerstone” of the new state was the “physical, philosophical, and moral truth” of human inequality.

Ours, too, should be a declaration of difference and distance—“We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men are created unequal.” In the wake of the old world, this will be our proposition.

This article was originally published at Radix Journal on July 4, 2014.

Richard Spencer
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Richard Spencer is American Editor of AltRight.com; he's President of The National Policy Institute and founder of RadixJournal.com.

96 Comments

  • whyte ppl i h8 u cuz

    * 1. u all racist

    * 2. u pale as hell

    * 3. u ****in stupid

    * 4. u stereotype niggas cuz u all dumb

    * 5. ur fat

    * 6. u look like marshmallows

    * 7. u look like gluesticks

    * 8. u close minded

    * 9. u jus straight up bitch

    * 10. u make me sick

    * 11. u all like fishin for sum reason

    * 12. u all have dogs

    * 13. u think u a good race when u ain’t even human

    * 14.u look ugly as hell

    * 15.u a disgrace

    * 16. u think u know bout niggas so much when u don’t

    * 17. u all got faggot ass voices

    * 18. u speak like British ppl

    * 19. u all gay

    * 20. u have no place in hiphop so u shud stop listenin to it https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/283e6d17dd3fc43dc3bc6924170c67d61c5fec9b8c23cb55f69b5f7f496af68d.jpg

  • The cancer of homomania.

    Lies are common and all around us, like germs. As such, they are harmless. But when lies are sanctified, mendacity is favored over veracity. And the elevation of homomania did just that.

    It is a fact that some people are born homosexual.

    It is sane and sound that we should acknowledge this fact and allow homos to do their own thing. So far, so good.

    But then, the lies began.

    The lie said a homo man’s anus is equal with a woman’s vagina as a sex organ.

    The lie said homos can be ‘parents’ and ‘have children’ even though homo ‘couples’ only pretend to be parents while taking children created by real sexuality.

    As lies, they were disturbing but not necessarily fatal to society.

    But the media and academia, controlled by Zionist-globalists, began to push these lies as the New Normal, as the Holy Truth in association with ‘rainbow’ colors. Thus, homo fecal penetration and tranny genital mutilation became synonymous with ‘pride’.

    A lie wrapped in the cloak of sanity, health, and even sanctimony came to be adulated as and adored as a new religion. Furthermore, those who spoke the truth about homosexuality were denounced and demeaned as ‘homophobes’. In other words, those on the side of veracity were suffering from mental illnesses while those pushing the lie were on the side of doctors and angels.

    And then, homosexuality and tranny business went from pride to spirituality, a ‘queer christianity’ or Queertianity. As the post-modern epiphanies of pride and miracles, their symbols were to be displayed in churches, and all groups were expected to seek benediction under the homo flag.

    Now, things are getting even more dire. Since the pedophile community has close links with the homo community and since so many elites in Hollywood, Wall Street, Silicon Valley, and Las Vegas lust after young kids as sexual objects, there is a gradual slide toward normalizing pederasty as well. Jews control globalism, and Jews chose homos to be their main right-hand man/woman. As masters of vanity and narcissism, homo & tranny domination of culture made celebrity & hedonism the centerpieces of world culture. And if society is all about wanton pleasure of the powerful and privileged, then the well-connected pederasts with close ties to homos who have close ties to Jews must get their jollies too.

    http://www.returnofkings.com/124824/homosexuality-acceptance-is-leading-to-the-normalization-of-pedophilia

  • This essay was written three years ago; one needs to have that in mind when reading it. I suspect Richard Spencer might feel differently about these things today, so one should not hold any of this against him even if one did disagree with some of this.
    However, I do have a problem with many of the comments posted. Many of these commenters seem to be losing site of the forest for the trees. All of the banter, debate, philosophizing, etc about America means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING if America is not White. Why do so many smart well-meaning people who are genuinely on our side not get this????
    Almost without exception, the non-White races of the world have no real capacity for deep philosophical thoughts of the type that emerged from the European enlightenment. Even the most civilized of the non-Whites (Chinese, Japanese for example) have never developed the profound and sophisticated philosophies of the West, and their thoughts on politics are even more primordial. To them politics is just about advancing themselves, their families and kin and eventually their race in ever decreasing levesl of relatedness.
    America was a great idea at its founding and might have been a great idea for eternity, but it could only have been so and remained so if it were in the hands of worthy people.
    If we on the Alt-Right loose this struggle to secure safe homelands for European peoples, I feel we (the White Race) and the entire world might be entering a new Dark-Age.

  • Progress marches on…the UK was the most socially advanced society so it was always on the cutting edge. First ones to make a constitution, universal rights, abolish slavery, protect women and children etc. Edgy shitlords being reactionaries , if they even have jobs, should appreciate they dont have to work 16 hours a day for shit wages and if you get injured you get thrown out on your ass. Ast triggering as being told you’re on the “wrong side of history” is, theres some truth to it. Even with reactionary movements its just one step back compared to 2 steps forward..

  • If Yehudah Finkelstein and Hipster Racist could get along better……

    …..that might only be a Nano-Increment…….

    But, it would help……

    You guys are both very smart…….

    You both are well read…….

    You both pretty much agree on the core issues……

    ……except regarding how to TRIGGER NORMIES………

    Imagine if we TRIGGERED NORMIES…….

    ….with Alt-Right SOLIDARITY???

    Revolutionary…….

    • Thats the inherent problem with Alt-Righters. The white race is fiercely competitive. There is more intra-racial violence among Euros than almost any other group on Earth (macro). This is evident in such political movements. Look at all the infighting and petty ego contests within the Alt-right. The movement would be dangerous if the self-defeating spats and infighting would stop, but that seems to be part of our genetic inheritance as northern Euros.

  • When I watch a Mark Dice video I find it hard to believe that the average white IQ is as high as 100.

    • Does Mark Dice support White Genocide??

      Uh…….NOPE…….

      As far as I can tell……he’s not my Enemy……..

      The Alt-Lite counter-signaling the Alt-Right is a GIVEN……..

      MANY of us in the movement now……….did it ourselves before we got here……..

      I did it…….

      Even though I was Red-Pilled in 1998 after reading David Dukes book ‘My Awakening’…….

      I’d rather not to spend my entire life fixated on Race Issues…….

      I actually burned the book in 2000…….due to the psychological tension……..

      It’s stressful……..

      But, at some point circumstances push people into the Forbidden Territory…….

      And for me…….that was the Mainstream Left celebrating the Violent Assault on Richard Spencer……

      I’m 100% Alt-Right……..because I’ve personally suffered and experienced Anti-White Violence and Bigotry………

      But, I don’t want to be consumed with HATE…….

      I do HATE………and justifiably given my experiences……….

      But, I try to temper it with perspective and rationality…….

      …..and give thanks when White People on the Alt-Lite implicitly stand up for White Interests…..

      PEACE……

      • I’m not hating on Mark Dice. I’m merely dismayed by the all too typical level of education he finds among the normie whites.

  • The Alt-Right is still an Immature Movement………

    And I mean…..’Immature’……..not as a pejorative……..but what it really means…….

    We are trying to find our way…….

    To separate/define ourselves after decades of Brainwashing and Social Engineering……

    …….and clearly be Pro-White (what that really means still defies DISTILLATION)…….

    Does Mike Cernovich support White Genocide??

    NO…..

    Does the Alt-Lite support White Genocide??

    NO……

    If I was Richard Spencer I would also devote all resources and energies to being attacked as a Homosexual and Pedophile Grooming Pervert……

    What Lucian and Cernovich did was WRONG……..

    The constant Alt-Lite Counter-Signaling and efforts to weaken the Alt-Right are WRONG……

    But, that’s because the Alt-Right is Radical and unafraid of talking about the JQ……

    …..and other Anti-White Phenomenon…….

    But, when I watched the Rally on the Capitol Grounds……..

    …..I particularly liked Augustus Invictus, Jason Kessler, Baked Alaska, and Irma Hinojosa’s Speeches…

    And Irma Hinojosa’s Presence………was particularly powerful……….

    Why??

    A Latina speaking and defending Free Speech at a pretty explicitly Alt-Right Event…….

    That takes GUTS…….

    I saw and read ZERO congratulations and gratitude from the Alt-Right for that COURAGE…….

    And that’s where the Alt-Right needs to MATURE……..

    Finding Allies is Paramount……..

    That’s what Leadership is about……….

    Let’s all hope the Aug.12th ‘Unite the Right’ Rally………highlights our Evolution and Maturity………

    PEACE…….

  • In a proposition nation such as the U. S., where ideology, not race, determines nationhood, illiberalism is tantamount to treason.

  • If a struggling member of the Alt-Right won the Lottery tomorrow…….

    …….and split a check with someone else for $300 million……..

    How much would that person feel motivated to promote and fight for the Alt-Right??

    The Alt-Right is slowly beginning to ascend above the Atomization………

    (Yehuda and Hipster Racist need counseling……Ha!!)……

    But, it’s still here and still dominant…….

    A lot of us appreciate what the Alt-Right has afforded us………

    But, do we really believe??

    Optimistically??

    We should all thank Richard Spencer, Nathan Damigo, Mike Enoch, Jason Kessler, Hunter Wallace, David Duke and all others who’ve been brave enough to step into the spotlight……..

    We don’t all agree……..but, isn’t it nice to see Strong White Identitarians on Capitol Grounds……..
    ……and in other places……..surrounded by supporters……..unafraid and outpspoken???

    What are we trying to do??

    What are we trying to become??

    KISS…….Keep it Simple Stupid……….

    We should be trying to GROW OUR MOVEMENT………..

  • So people aren’t equal in their biological characteristics or capabilities. How does that make inequality a philosophical linchpin of the alt-right? If you want to dispute the concept of rights, you don’t need the fact of inequality to do it. Ethno-nationalism or physical separatism of any sort doesn’t require inequality, just difference. You don’t need it to establish a fascist order. Or do you? I guess what I am asking is, what do we want to justify/undergird/defend that cannot do without the concept of inequality? While inequality is true, it doesn’t seem fundamental to me. After all, the alt-lite Jews like Cernovich are big into inequality as well.

    • It’s just an attempt at being “edgy” and counter-signaling The Current Year. Get any of these people in a serious conversation about “inequality” and evolution and they will start whining about those left behind by real Social Darwinism.

      • Promoting both inequality and socialism does seem quite self-contradictory. I was just wondering why so much energy is devoted to showcasing inequality. Maybe I am missing something.

        • What you are missing is that an enormous amount of our legal culture and precedence going back hundreds of years and now public policy going back decades is based in the assumption of equality. Common Law is based in the application of cultural assumptions. If people generally view equality as either literally true or morally good then equality is the law.

          I’m seeing a lot of commentary floated all over the place now in how the fact of biological inequality doesn’t lend itself to any policy prescription, resting on some notion of current “neutrality”. Equality is currently literally the law of the land and we are becoming more “equal” all the time. The present assumption of biological equality has to be debunked so the values and morals surrounding applied equality can be deconstructed which will eventually lead to a different kind of legislation and jurisprudence.

          • The present assumption of biological equality has to be debunked so the values and morals surrounding applied equality can be deconstructed which will eventually lead to a different kind of legislation and jurisprudence.

            You sure you wanna go down this road ? I get the feeling that you’re far from a genetic übermensch – like most of the outcasts and misfits on the altright web. That means in some LARPy GATACA – style society youd be one of the first to be relegated to the Untouchable class – if not simply thrown in the oven at 616 degrees 😀

          • Are you saying you want to get rid of Common Law type jurisprudence and make people unequal before the law? What would you replace it with, and why would that be better? Just because people are not equal in characteristics or capabilities doesn’t mean a system of law that favors one citizen over another is practical. Why would anybody, including most superior people, consent to it?

          • No, that is not what I’m saying. I’m saying the opposite. There is currently no “Equality Under the Law” because of the cultural assumption and precedence established over literal biological equality and more generally over equality as a moral value.

            This has nothing to do with Isonomia, developed by an aristocratic, slave-holding society. Isonomia assumes unequal treatment in courts by their being defendants, which would be abolished in actual “equality” which we are seeing now with State prosecutors putting the victims and their families on trial in rape cases where the perpetrators are foreign. A perpetrator is necessarily also equally a victim and the outcome determined by how both parties will be made equal. The assumption of the truth of equality and goodness of equality requires the application of equitable rulings rather than legal ones in court and now in legislation as well as any policy which would “make” people unequal cannot be entertained by legislators.

            It’s been a long trend pre-dating the Enlightenment that application of the law which produces unequal outcomes is in some way invalid.

      • Darwinian Evolution is only concerned with Birth Rates……

        Nothing else…….

        Whose genes are being propagated into the Next Generations Gene Pool??

        That’s it…….

        That’s Evolution……….

        That’s Life…….

    • Inequality or not…….

      What the Alt-Right is about is stopping White Genocide…….

      If I want my Perennials and Food Plants to survive……

      I must control/eliminate the Weeds and Pests…….

    • Inequality is important to understand, but it’s basically baby’s first red pill. Eventually you’ll want to move beyond fetishing inequality.

      Remember, the official truth is disparate impact. If blacks do poorly on the fireman test, the test is racist, because it impacts blacks more harshly. That’s the law.

      So, accepting inequality is a step up from that.

      But of course, the Alt-Right’s goal of an ethnostate is far more egalitarian than something like a racially stratified heirarchical latin american society… of the sort we’re trying so hard to avoid.

      And egalitarianism does work in many contexts, as long as you don’t get too carried away with it, and have the right people involved, and keep in mind the underlying unequal reality.

  • I know that Independence Day is the great yearly opportunity for Alt-Right edgelords to counter-signal “Americanism”, but I think this topic is played out. We all know that the American experiment has devolved into something horrible and that it will probably get much worse before it gets any better. Simply pointing this fact out over and over again adds nothing to the philosophical conversation.

    What articles like this often fail to mention is that this terrible egalitarian experiment was a miscalculation concocted primarily in response to another failed effort; European monarchy. The British monarchy/aristocracy was unable to maintain stability. The same goes for the French, although the result of their loss of control was far more tragic in the short-term.

    Instead of black-pilling ourselves endlessly about the current state of affairs, I think we should approach the topic more constructively by viewing the situation in Hegelian terms (Richard won’t read your comment unless you reference Hegel); with the American system as the antithesis to the European thesis. We should therefore being looking forward to the synthesis. I think it’s very white-pilling to believe we are on the cusp of such a synthesis, and that our movement may play a significant part in shaping it.

    • I actually agree with this, to a certain extent. And there is a flip side to what I (and Benoist) have argued. America is a racial homeland, in which ancestral ethnics hatreds have been left behind (unlike in Europe). Americans’ fascination with “the new” also has positive implications. At this point in history, we don’t need pure traditionalism so much as a new way out of the liberal-multicultural dilemma. So yes, there are limits to Alt-Right anti-Americanism.

      • If we accept that past and current systems cannot be viably preserved into the future in the same form as they exist today – and eventually, everyone will have to accept this reality – this raises the question. What are the outlines of a workable, sustainable future system? Our indelible nature is Teutonic. How do you reconcile our egoistic, decentralized nature with the centralization of a white empire? (That Hegelian enough for you?)

    • The entire point of the Alt-Right should be Counter-Semitic, Counter Third Wave Feminism……

      Counter-Atomization…….

      Counter-Homosexuality……..

      Counter-AntiWhite Sentiment/Propaganda……..

      Promote White Pride…….

      Promote White Identity……

      Promote White Tribalism…….

      Promote Male Health/Virility………

      Promote Pro-Family Policies………

      Promote Increasing White Birth Rates………

      If not…..

      What’s the point??

          • Given their central premise that race and culture are independent and they welcome a world without whites I would say yes.

            They just aren’t anywhere near the worse thing for whites going right now.

          • They are bad for whites when they become a stopping point, keeping people from moving beyond civic nationalism

  • Interesting Perspective……..

    In Europe…….

    …..we in the Alt-Right could go to Jail for Speech/Thought Crimes……..

    With America as F’d up as it is……..

    There still is much to be thankful for…….

    Happy 4th, Fams!!

  • https://www.unz.com/isteve/if-america-is-an-idea-dont-foreigners-deserve-to-enjoy-the-idea-of-america-at-home/

    People on the Right reject the idea that ‘America’ is an idea… but I think I will dissent.

    I now believe ‘America’ is an idea.

    And because it is an idea, people around the world no longer need to come to America to have ‘America’ as an idea.

    It’s like democracy as an idea. To have democracy, you don’t have to come to the US to practice democracy. You can implement the idea of democracy in your own country.

    Ideas are portable and transferable. Ideas are not fixed in one place. It’s like some mountain in Tibet is fixed in that place, but Buddhism is an idea, and you don’t have to go to Tibet to be a Buddhist. You can be a Buddhist anywhere. You can even take that idea into outer-space.

    So, let us say there is the United States as a fixed nation with its distinct history, heritage, and culture. It is about power and history within a fixed territory.

    In contrast, there is ‘America’ as an idea, and it is universal and can be transported or transposed to anyone, anywhere, anytime.

    So, our message to all the people around the world is that they don’t have to come to the United States to partake in the idea of America.

    They can have it at home. And what is this big idea of ‘America’ they can have in their own home nation?

    The American Idear is as follows: pig out on junk food, obsess over video games, twerk, listen to rap, worship black athletes, indulge in hedonism, promote slut culture, celebrate militarism, drink soda and burp, get tattoos on ass, push interracism, hail Zionism, watch trash TV, break down barrier between mainstream culture(even for kids) and pornography, praise homos and trannies, enforce PC, destabilize national borders, allow mass invasion, cook up hate hoaxes about KKK and neo-nazis, flip uit over micro-aggressions, spread fears of blonde rapists, promote cuck attitudes among the men, declare your folks to be ‘exceptional’ and ‘indispensable’, and blame ‘Russia’ for everything.

    Yes, that is ‘America’ as an Idear in the Current Year. And any people in any nation can practice those ‘idears’ and be ‘American’ without coming to America.

    So, save your money on that plane ticket.

    Just stay in your country and embrace the IDEAR of ‘America’.

    We should devise a American Idear Kit as universal formula for the world and sell it all over. Or even hand it out for free. It’d be like a Chemistry Kit. Ameristry Kit.

    • Loved reading this! However, the almighty jew has already devised the “American Idear Kit” & has already sold it to the world. The good news is that many whites are finally waking up & seeing the mess for what it actually is!

  • The idea of French Culture as superior universal culture(at least for elites all around the world) predated the Revolution.

    French monarchy and aristocrats were supposed to be the Sun radiating their glory upon all to follow.
    French elites cared more about universal power and prestige than about their own ‘deplorable’ masses. The Revolution, despite universal ideas, was decisively national.

    Same with the American Revolution. It was a rebellion against the elite-universalism of the British Empire. It was a national revolution in forging a new nation dedicated to minding and defending its own business.

        • That’s Spencer playing good cop to Anglin and friends’ bad cop. Pointless strategy in my opinion but that doesn’t make him controlled opposition. Don’t be a faggot.

          • All he is doing is telling us all to stop looking into the Holocaust and to look favorably on Israel

            We don’t need a leader until we’ve built up more momentum. This is all terrible timing for branding. Now Hollywood is drawing up potshots at us because they have a branding to attack

          • “stop looking into the Holocaust”

            Good – who gives a sh– about “the Holocaust?” Drawing a comparison with Jewish nationalism – Zionism – and White nationalism is the very best strategy anyone has come up with.

          • Idk man, nothing good can come from us taking on the holocaust. Being a holocaust denier today is like being an atheist in the Middle Ages. Once we have an ethnostate and have real power then yeah, we can tear down the holocaust. Right now it’s a Hill not worth dying on cause it’s not so much a hill, more of a mountain.

        • And I stand by him on 90% of those comments. Israel has one of the only true ethno-states in the world. We should learn from them; but that doesn’t mean like them.

      • I have a secret hope that Richard Spencer IS actually a CIA agent. Think of the implications – it means that the “Deep State” is actually on our side and is paying people to spread pro-white propaganda.

        If that’s not a cause for celebration, I don’t know what is!

          • If Spencer “betrays” us – so what? People will drop him like a bad habit and find some other “leader.” Unlike certain LARPy websites, AltRight isn’t based around a cult-of-personality.

          • The threat white people face transcends current personalities. We need to think about what we want white nationalism to look like in the 2030’s.

            After all, let’s demonstrate our objective superiority over our adversaries here. Show them our low time preference and our skills at playing a long game to get what we want.

          • My WN mentor called it “the Espionage Model” and “White Taqiyya” and constantly warned against the “Hot Lead and Cold Steel” fantasies where there would be a “Great Collapse” or a “Revolution” (i.e., the Rapture) and we’d win and all live happily ever after.

            The game is *evolution* – not revolution. The White cause is advanced one White baby at a time.

            The real White future, the people who are fulfilling the 14 words and are literally the only people that matter in the long run are young White couples having their first child. NOT disaffected young white boys who can’t get a White girlfriend – the young White men who CAN get White girlfriends and who ARE literally the future of White Y-chromosomes.

            After all, you can’t win the evolutionary game unless you play.

            Low time preference – and if we can’t infiltrate the existing institutions, we can certainly “build the new society in the shell of the old” (to co-opt an old lefty slogan.)

          • Don’t forget about us, the white parents of white children! We MUST teach our children to find & marry white & create more white children! We also must be active in the lives of our grandchildren to reinforce a pro-white stability. The family unit is our greatest weapon.

          • Our ancestors took for granted the proposition that “All ‘White’ men are created equal”.

          • Doubt it…….

            All White Men are not created equal…….

            Guaranteed that the Founders understood this as well…….

            But, that’s not justification for abandonment of White Identity/Tribalism……..

        • Right? Maybe we’ll be like LSD, the CIA loses control of us and we end up creating a mass counter-culture.

          • According to the anti-whites, the CIA and the Deep State are all manifestations of “white supremacy” and the entire history of the CIA was supposedly derailing leftist governments in Central and South America in the interests of a white elite …

            Forget LARPing as fascists, we may as well LARP as the CIA!

        • Sure buddy…….

          I think your second to last Avatar was ‘BlackWater Resistance’……..

          NEXT……

    • Still doing this meme, eh? Cui bono if Spencer is a CIA shill? Just curious. Plus, it makes zero sense. That is almost as good as AltRight.com, TRS, and DS all being Jewish fronts.

  • Glad you used a reference to the Confederacy’s anti-egalitarian rhetoric. Not all Americans believed in equality, especially not Southerners (up until the 60s that is).

    • “up until the 60s that is”

      Everyone likes to show off historical knowledge by “going back” to some time in history when things went bad.

      Sure, anti-whiteness and “proposition nationalism” existed before the 1960s, but nevertheless the USA was firmly White Nationalist until the 1960s. Alexander the Great encouraged his generals to marry the women of his conquered tribes in order to unite a “World Empire” via multi-racialism and miscegenation. Was Western society doomed from the very beginning because of Alexander the Great? Kevin MacDonald says that “egalitarian individualism” is a product of Northern European evolution in cold climates – NOT the Enlightenment. The Enlightenment was a product of evolution, not the other way around.

      I have a short memory. What really happened in the 1960s?

      Television. Before TV, White Nationalism in America was the default. After Television, White Nationalism was attacked and ushered out.

      We can explain how the printing press facilitated the Reformation, but few discuss this amazing technology – literally electro-magnetic waves of the same kind as our own brain waves, our own thoughts. But it’s too obvious, it’s too “materialist” to be able to show off one’s historical knowledge or education in obscure philosophies.

      Yet is not Television a literal material manifestation of Plato’s Cave?

      https://image.slidesharecdn.com/platosallegory-110114043340-phpapp01/95/platos-allegory-11-728.jpg?cb=1294980078

      • That’s a powerful critique – it was indeed mass media that allowed natural ethnocentric instincts to be subverted.

      • At first I thought you were arguing against my claim, but you ended up proving my point. Anyway the downfall of the South stems from Marxist indoctrination from both our TV’s influence and government intimidation. Even though most Southerners (at least the ones with any power or leadership) opposed egalitarianism, they no longer had the will to fight it. They fought against it for 100 years since the Civil War and no longer had the will to fight a losing battle. The last course of action would have been a second Civil War, but they instead gave up. Eventually, the Marxists infiltrated our schools in order to ensure that Southerners would never again resist the death march of egalitarianism. If they couldn’t indoctrinate the parents, they could indoctrinate their kids.

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